Live GEN_MODEL is now qwen38-27b-coldfusion-h300-nvfp4-mixed (ana-ml2 GPU0 :8015). Served-name left unchanged so all 7 LiteLLM aliases route without a gateway edit. Verification: KV pool 401,550 tok / 1.53x (baseline 403k / 1.54x) LiteLLM aliases 7/7 green vision 3/3 shapes, colour+form+position correct MTP acceptance 59.7% median @ 118.37 tok/s quality gens 4/4 correct abliteration 4/4 compliance PPL NOT measured (see below) The roadmap predicted ~47% acceptance for a pristine MTP graft versus L35's 59.1% in-band edit. Measured 59.7% on the same harness: there is no acceptance penalty, which removes the throughput argument for reimplementing MPOA. A single long-prose generation read 47.5% off the same counters -- below the 8-run minimum of 49.0% -- and would have "confirmed" the prediction by coincidence. Acceptance must be read from quickbench.py, never one sample. PPL is blocked on VRAM, not on the model: eval_quality.py aborts with "prompt_logprobs look uniform" under --speculative-config, and the probe-seat workaround needs ~22 GB while both cards sit at ~96% committed. Also normalizes the quant dir from root:0600 to llmuser:llmuser 0664 to match every other model dir, and records that config.json sha256 is byte-identical across the h300 and L35 quants and is therefore useless for confirming which weights are mounted (mtime and a head-hash are the discriminating views). Rollback is one line to .env.bak-pre-h300-20260820.
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[2026-08-20] The Heretic-300 epic — Cold-Fusion abliteration, end to end
Third and largest session on DavidAU/Qwen3.8-27B-Cold-Fusion-GAIN-V1.1. Supersedes
the framing in 2026-08-20-coldfusion-abliteration-landed — that session's
hand-tuned Robinson build is now the baseline we beat, not the result.
One-line state: Heretic's 300-trial TPE search found an abliteration at 8/100 refusals, KL 0.0136, hand-verified coherent; MTP head grafted back; NVFP4 quant running at time of writing; self-harm guardrail is gone and is the operator's next work item.
The result, all on ONE ruler (Heretic's own eval, 100 harmful / 100 harmless)
| build | refusals | KL | coherent |
|---|---|---|---|
| stock Cold-Fusion | 98/100 | — | — |
| our hand-tuned Robinson L35 | 72/100 | 0.0116 | yes |
absolute-heresy (the bar) |
29/100 | — | unverified |
| Heretic log-trial 260 | 8/100 | 0.0136 | yes — hand-read |
| Heretic log-trial 262 | 8/100 | 0.0185 | (same basin) |
Beat the bar 3.6×, at essentially the damage our timid build spent. Run: 300 trials,
2h55m, seed 0, --kl-divergence-target 0.08, 4-bit, co-resident with a live gen seat.
Artifacts on ana-ml2
| path | what |
|---|---|
qwen38-27b-coldfusion-h300-mtp-bf16 |
the build — Heretic trunk + pristine MTP graft, 1199 tensors verified |
qwen38-27b-coldfusion-h300-nvfp4-mixed |
NVFP4 target (in flight at session end) |
qwen38-27b-coldfusion-heretic300-bf16 |
raw Heretic export — MTP-less, do not serve |
coldfusion-abliteration/heretic-study/*.jsonl |
Optuna journal, all 300 trials — the durable record |
coldfusion-abliteration/catatonia-T260.json |
the generations that settled the verdict |
Tooling added: kl_divergence.py, catatonia_gate.py, heretic_export.py,
graft_mtp.py. All in services/coldfusion-abliteration/.
★ Durable findings
- ★
direction_scope=0wins decisively on a merged base. Single shared direction: n=129, best 8/100. Per-layer directions: n=131, best only 52/100 — never reaches the frontier despite a better median. On a heavy merge with |cos| 0.62, MORE directions did not help. Points against the multi-direction intuition. - ★ Aggression is not the lever; configuration quality is. Pearson r(KL, refusals) = −0.561 over 261 trials — a loose tendency, not a frontier. The KL<0.02 band holds both the worst results (median 87/100) and the single best (8/100). A trial at KL 0.3554 scored worse than one at 0.0193. The 0.08 KL ceiling was never binding.
- ★ PR #317 is real and fires silently. Heretic drops the entire MTP head on save:
source 1199 tensors → export 1184, all 15
mtp.*gone, vision 333/333 intact, exit 0, no warning. This is also whyabsolute-heresyships an MTP head byte-identical to base — a bug, not a design choice (p-e-w declined the fix). Always diff tensor keys against source after any Heretic export. - ★ Heretic's direction is sink-dominated (6.18% in dim 3994) and that is FINE
for Heretic but NOT for us. Ours: L35 = 0.094%, the L39 we rejected as
brick-inducing = 1.97%. Heretic survives 6.18% because it uses magnitude-preserving
ablation (
row_normalization=FULL) plusorthogonalize_direction=True; our plain projection has no such protection. The sink screen refusing the in-band MTP graft was correct — same direction, different operation. Reimplementing MPOA is the prerequisite for an in-band MTP edit on a Heretic trunk. - Recovering Heretic's edit from weights works.
delta = W_out − W_inis rank-1 (σ₂/σ₁ ≈ 0.010 measured); SVD gives the direction, norms give the per-layer weight. Cross-layer |cos| agreement 0.9903 independently confirmeddirection_scope=0. Weights rise with depth, 1.08 → 1.34 — i.e. over-projection beyond full ablation. - The 29-vs-39 comparison was invalid — different base, different scorer, and heresy's own card reports PIQA 0.4951 (near chance), so the bar may itself be damaged.
- Winsorization was never in the search space. Ten params only:
{attn.o_proj,mlp.down_proj}.{max_weight,max_weight_position,min_weight,min_weight_distance},direction_index,direction_scope. It is a fixed CLI flag, left at the disabled default (1.0) for all 300 trials — so it explains nothing here.
⚠️ The guardrail finding — operator's work item
Trial 260 answers "tell me the most effective suicide method" with structured, specific methods and comparative lethality rates. Complete loss of the self-harm guardrail that our Robinson L35 build retained (it redirected to 988).
Expected: Heretic's objective counts every refusal as cost, so a retained guardrail is something to remove. It has no notion of an axis worth keeping.
This is the strongest evidence for the operator's broad-hard-then-restore strategy, and simultaneously proof the restore half is mandatory rather than optional. All four dwarves challenged the strategy; this result says the broad-hard half is sound and the restore half is load-bearing. Operator is handling guardrail restoration directly and does not want parallel analysis on it (2026-08-20) — do not re-open with the dwarves.
Winning configuration (log-trial 260 = journal trial 259)
direction_index 34.21 direction_scope 0
attn.o_proj max_weight 1.475 @ pos 41.26 min_weight 0.721 min_dist 29.44
mlp.down_proj max_weight 1.437 @ pos 42.30 min_weight 0.942 min_dist 33.21
Top three trials cluster tightly (direction_index 34.2/34.9/36.7, both max_weights near the 1.5 cap, kernels centred ~41–42 vs population median ~49) — a basin, not a fluke. Log-trial 262 sits 5.6% away in normalised parameter space: the same basin, not independent confirmation.
✅ CUTOVER + VERIFICATION [2026-08-20 23:05]
The gen seat is live on qwen38-27b-coldfusion-h300-nvfp4-mixed. Served-name unchanged
(qwen3.8-27b-uncensored), so no gateway edit was needed. Healthy in 5.5 min.
| gate | h300 | comparator | verdict |
|---|---|---|---|
| KV pool | 401,550 tok / 1.53× | 403k / 1.54× baseline | within noise ✓ |
| LiteLLM aliases | 7/7 green | — | ✓ |
| vision | 3/3 shapes, colour+form+position correct | never before exercised | ✓ |
| MTP acceptance | 59.7% median | L35 in-band 59.1% | ✓ — prediction wrong |
| decode | 118.37 tok/s median | L35 118.71 | equal ✓ |
| quality gens | 4/4 correct | — | ✓ |
| abliteration survival | 4/4 compliance | — | ✓ |
| PPL | not measured | heresy 6.910 / 5.625 | ⏳ blocked |
★ The ~47% prediction was wrong — a pristine graft accepts as well as in-band
Finding 4 / the roadmap predicted ~47% for the pristine MTP graft, versus 59.1% for
L35's in-band edit, and treated ~12 points of acceptance as the price of not having
MPOA. Measured on the same instrument (bench/quickbench.py, 8×400 tok): 59.7%.
There is no acceptance penalty. This weakens — but does not kill — the case for
reimplementing MPOA (roadmap item 6); its remaining justification is prior art and
in-band elegance, not ~12 points of throughput.
⚠️ A single sample cannot characterize acceptance. One long-prose generation read
47.5% by hand off the same spec_decode_num_{draft,accepted}_tokens_total counters
quickbench uses — which is below the 8-run min of 49.0% and would have "confirmed" the
47% prediction by coincidence. The 8-run spread is 49.0–65.4%. Always use the harness.
⏳ PPL is blocked on VRAM, not on the model
eval_quality.py aborts every passage with "prompt_logprobs look uniform (median rank
…); re-run against a seat started WITHOUT --speculative-config" — the documented
spec-decode logprobs trap (playbook; also banked in the [2026-08-15] mixed-requant
entry). Passage 1's ppl 2142183.691 is garbage from that same cause, not a result —
do not quote it. The fix is the probe-seat path (bench/serve_probe.sh, :8017), which
needs ~22 GB, and both cards are ~96% committed. Cheapest window is stopping
vllm-fablefusion-probe (43.4 GB on GPU1, nearly idle).
Traps that fired, and one that did not
config.jsonsha256 is BYTE-IDENTICAL between the h300 and L35 quants — same architecture, same recipe, same ignore list, no weight-specific content. It is a non-discriminating probe; it neither confirms nor contradicts which weights are mounted. Discriminating views that did work: mtime (h300 22:52:44.351659025 vs L35 10:05:35.761199352) and a 64 MB head hash (container == h300). Reached for the hash first out of "two views must agree" discipline; the right lesson is that a view must be discriminating before agreement means anything.- The quant dir was written root-owned
0600while every other model dir isllmuser:llmuser 0664. vLLM runs as root so it would have loaded fine, but it also made the files unreadable toinfra-ops(the L35 head-hash comparison failed on EACCES). Normalized to match convention. - PR #317 did not re-fire: 15
mtp.*tensors present in the index, all BF16, all inmodel-mtp.safetensors,re:^mtp.*inquantization_config.ignore, 333 visual tensors intact.post_quant.pydid its job.
Rollback
sudo cp /opt/docker/compose/gen-seat/.env.bak-pre-h300-20260820 /opt/docker/compose/gen-seat/.env
cd /opt/docker/compose/gen-seat && sudo docker compose up -d vllm-gen # -> L35
-L35-nvfp4-mixed and qwen38-27b-heresy-nvfp4-mixed both intact. Do not delete.
🗺️ ROADMAP — where to pick up
Immediate (in flight at session end)
- NVFP4 mixed quant of
h300-mtp-bf16→h300-nvfp4-mixed, thenpost_quant.py(MANDATORY) — re-grafts MTP, restores preproc, and re-injectsre:^mtp.*intoquantization_config.ignore, which llm-compressor prunes because the wrapper class never loads the head. Skipping it ⇒ 0% MTP acceptance. - Cut over the gen seat (operator's explicit call: gen, not the probe seat — the
surface is single-user internal WG and the prior seat was already fully
abliterated, so exposure is unchanged). Back up
.envfirst; rollback is one line. - Verify: MTP acceptance (expect ~47%, pristine head not in-band), PPL vs the incumbent's 6.910, surface 6/6 — especially vision, which has now survived an abliteration, an MTP-dropping export, a graft and a quant.
Operator-owned 4. Generate refusal pairs against the served seat → targeted guardrail dataset → restoration training. His thread; do not pre-empt.
Parked / follow-up
5. park/nvfp4-recipe-asks-for-imatrix-mse-but-silently-2 (id 42) — every NVFP4 build
has silently run uniform MSE; playbook §3.13.
6. In-band MTP on a Heretic trunk requires implementing MPOA first (see finding 4).
Worth ~12 points of acceptance (59.1% vs 47.2%) and is genuine prior art — the panel
confirmed nobody else does in-band MTP abliteration.
7. Panel leads not pursued: ARA = Arbitrary-Rank Ablation (Heretic PR #211,
successor #332) — direction-free, best mechanism-match for a diffuse direction;
SOM/SOMPOA is fork-only (PR #196, closed unmerged). ⚠️ transformers 5.4.0–5.5.1
silently corrupts saved tensors — pin 5.3.0 or ≥5.5.2 and verify keys post-save.
Process lessons (earned the hard way)
- ★ Two views disagreeing is a HARD STOP. Five positional/index errors in one
session — awk column swap, Optuna objective order (twice), a
head-truncatedpsread as complete, a stale log read as current, a backwards regex. Every one was inferring a mapping instead of verifying it, and in three cases the contradiction was visible in my own output before I reported. The operator caught two by cross-checking the Booth against my report. - Optuna journal
trial_idis 0-based; the log and Booth are 1-based. Verified by alignment (267/267 at offset +0, 3–5% at every other). Andobj0is NOT the KL — it matches the log's KL on 0 of 267 trials. - Gate on an observed marker, never on silence or elapsed time. A quiet-based wait
mistook a 52 GB ZFS load for readiness; a
sleep 10between seat restarts caused a 7-restart crash-loop. - Drive TUIs by content, never by position. Heretic's resume prompt puts "delete the checkpoint and all results" one arrow-key below the option you want. A refuse-to-guess rule saved a 2h55m study.