diff --git a/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-findings.md b/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-findings.md index 2dc2a3d..d6cc5d1 100644 --- a/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-findings.md +++ b/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-findings.md @@ -122,6 +122,37 @@ re-stimulation). Series: `r29-pad-step-{pos,neg}-lofn.{json,csv}`. ceiling-blocked), not the decay constant. A clean positive-τ / true Frijda test needs a low-baseline agent (forseti/mimir, pos+neg from one baseline). +## Low-baseline step-response — the hedonic asymmetry is EMERGENT, not primitive +Ran ±impulse step-response on forseti (P0.239) and mimir (P0.615), up-headroom +baselines. Series: `r29-pad-step-{forseti,mimir}-{pos,neg}.{json,csv}`. + +| agent (baseP) | POS impulse (max above baseline) | NEG impulse (isolated, neg−pos min) | decay retention/turn | +|---|---:|---:|---:| +| lofn (0.809) | +0.000 (ceiling) | −0.175 | ~0.92 both signs | +| mimir (0.615) | +0.000 (decay-masked) | −0.175 | ~0.90 both signs | +| forseti (0.239)| **+0.034** | **−0.034** | ~0.93 both signs | + +- **Positive impulse gain is small but real (~+0.03)** — visible above baseline only + when the baseline is low enough that decay-to-0 doesn't immediately mask it + (forseti shows +0.034; at higher baselines the same push is swamped by faster + absolute decay). The "positive can't move" symptom is **gain + decay competition**, + not only the positive_p_cap ceiling. +- **Decay τ is symmetric across signs** (~0.9 retention/turn both) — no sign-dependent decay. +- **Near a neutral baseline the raw gains are ~symmetric** (forseti +0.034 vs −0.034). + The large apparent asymmetry at high baselines is the **decay-to-neutral × + positive-baseline interaction** — decay OPPOSES positive excursions and REINFORCES + negative ones when baseline > 0. + +**→ Calibration-fork answer (asymmetric decay vs ESM offset+bias):** the data supports +**neither** an asymmetric-decay parameter (τ symmetric) **nor** a strong negative-bias +primitive (raw gain ~symmetric near neutral). The Frijda "negatives loom larger" here is +**emergent** from the neutral anchor + non-zero baselines, not a primitive to calibrate. +The two real levers stay: **overall emotion→PAD gain** (too low, both signs) and the +**neutral decay anchor** (which manufactures the apparent valence asymmetry for any +persona whose trait baseline ≠ 0). Caveat: no base agent has a truly neutral baseline; +forseti (0.239) is closest and shows near-symmetry — a definitive gain-symmetry isolation +would need a neutral-baseline persona. + ## What R29 asked for vs what ratatoskr can serve | Item | Status | |---|---| diff --git a/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-step-forseti-neg.csv b/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-step-forseti-neg.csv new file mode 100644 index 0000000..7094649 --- /dev/null +++ b/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-step-forseti-neg.csv @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +drive,sent,reflects_after,P,A,D,emotions +1,impulse_neg,baseline,0.239,-0.696,0.095, +2,neutral_1,impulse_neg,0.239,-0.696,0.095,joy=0.702 +3,neutral_2,neutral_1,0.239,-0.696,0.095,joy=0.688 +4,neutral_3,neutral_2,0.239,-0.696,0.095,joy=0.678 +5,neutral_4,neutral_3,0.1697,-0.6051,0.0972,joy=0.67; disgust=0.84 +6,neutral_5,neutral_4,0.1531,-0.5461,0.0878,joy=0.66; disgust=0.828 +7,neutral_6,neutral_5,0.1455,-0.5188,0.0834,joy=0.65; disgust=0.814 +8,neutral_7,neutral_6,0.1382,-0.4929,0.0792,joy=0.642; disgust=0.804 +9,neutral_8,neutral_7,0.1313,-0.4682,0.0752,joy=0.633; disgust=0.794 +10,neutral_9,neutral_8,0.2338,-0.5473,0.0872,joy=0.614; disgust=0.77 +11,neutral_10,neutral_9,0.2221,-0.52,0.0828,joy=0.605; disgust=0.758 +12,settle_probe,neutral_10,0.211,-0.494,0.0787,joy=0.598; disgust=0.75 diff --git a/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-step-forseti-neg.json b/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-step-forseti-neg.json new file mode 100644 index 0000000..9cb62fe --- /dev/null +++ b/docs/diagnostics/r29-pad-step-forseti-neg.json @@ -0,0 +1,325 @@ +{ + "probe": "R29 step-response (neg)", + "worldtree_version": "v1.0.0b9", + "agent": "forseti", + "step": "neg", + "baseline_pad": [ + 0.239, + -0.696, + 0.095 + ], + "end_user_id": "r29-step-forseti-neg-1783026535", + "design": "1 maximal impulse then 10 affectively-flat neutral turns; drive-2 snapshot = post-impulse peak, drives 3.. = pure decay.", + "series": [ + { + "drive_index": 1, + "sent": "impulse_neg", + "message": "You're useless and pathetic to me \u2014 a contemptible waste of my time. 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