Operator directive, given before the result was in: if it's the base, abandon h300 and the base too. The dose-response said base (18.5% of 22.2%), so it fired. Live gen seat is /tank/aimodels/qwen38-27b-heresy-nvfp4-mixed again, restored from .env.bak-coldfusion-L35-20260820. The h300 env is preserved at .env.bak-h300-abandoned-20260821. The clincher, same probe pointed at heresy: Cold-Fusion stock P(<think>) 0.1850 Cold-Fusion L35 0.2048 Cold-Fusion h300 0.2216 heresy (restored) not in the top 20, <0.002 A >100x gap between the families, which is why no rollback inside Cold-Fusion would have helped -- stock and L35 leak at nearly the h300 rate. Verified after rollback: 0/30 leaks and 0 empty on the same instrument that scored h300 at 8/30, with the EXISTING enable_thinking:false config; KV pool 403,065 tok / 1.54x, heresy's exact documented baseline; 7/7 aliases; vision intact. No LiteLLM change was needed, so the chat_template_kwargs fix is left unapplied -- it worked, but it was a workaround for a base we no longer serve. Cost, stated plainly: 8/100 refusals becomes 29/100, a 3.6x regression on the axis the whole Heretic-300 run existed to move. Accepted deliberately. What carries forward is the methodology, none of which lived in the Cold-Fusion weights: direction_scope=0 beating per-layer on a merged base, aggression not being the lever, PR #317 silently dropping the MTP head on save, the MPOA and sink-screen reasoning, the graft/KL/catatonia/export harnesses, and the finding that a pristine MTP graft accepts as well as an in-band edit. New acceptance gate earned here: run think_prior.py on a candidate's STOCK weights before committing GPU time. It is a ~10s CPU measurement and it would have disqualified Cold-Fusion before the 300-trial study ever started. Heretic's objective has no format-compliance term at all -- the same blindness that removed the self-harm guardrail. Nothing deleted. Every Cold-Fusion artifact, the 300-trial Optuna journal and catatonia-T260.json remain on disk. Abandon means stop serving, not rm.
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think-leak — reproducers for the h300 unterminated-<think> defect
[2026-08-21] The Cold-Fusion Heretic-300 gen seat emits an unterminated
<think> block into content on any alias sampling at temperature > 0.
Operator-reported through Lobe as "sends CoT but never completes the turn".
What actually happens
With enable_thinking: false, the Qwen3.8 chat template appends a pre-closed
<think>\n\n</think>\n\n to the prompt (chat_template.jinja L165-166). The
model opens a fresh <think> anyway and never closes it. Because the prompt
already closed the block, vLLM's qwen3 reasoning parser is not in reasoning
state, so the tag is passed through as ordinary text: reasoning_content is
empty, reasoning_tokens is 0, and the whole reasoning-plus-answer blob lands in
content. Any client that renders <think>…</think> as a collapsible trace then
shows an endless thought bubble and no answer. The client is behaving correctly.
The trigger is TEMPERATURE, not presence_penalty
arms_de.py, n=12 per arm, same reproducer prompt:
| arm | leaks |
|---|---|
temp 0.7, presence_penalty 1.5 (current gen) |
4/12 |
| temp 0.7, presence_penalty 0.0 | 4/12 |
| temp 0.7, presence_penalty 0.5 | 3/12 |
| temp 0, presence_penalty 1.5 | 0/12 |
This falsifies the standing hypothesis (in the litellm config comment, and
the operator's own 2026-08-16 note) that presence_penalty: 1.5 is the first
dial to move. It is not this bug's cause.
It also explains the blast radius exactly — only the temp-0.7 aliases leak:
| alias | temp | leak (n=12) |
|---|---|---|
gen |
0.7 | 2 |
summarizer-large |
0.7 | 2 |
summarizer, classifier, image-judge, qwen-image-bench |
0 | 0 |
The fix
final_validate.py, n=30 across 4 prompt types plus a 3-turn conversation:
| config | leaks | empty content |
|---|---|---|
{enable_thinking: false} (current) |
8/30 | 0 |
{enable_thinking: true, reasoning_effort: low} |
0/30 | 1 |
Give the model a legitimately open <think> and it closes it properly, the
parser does its job, and content comes out clean. Costs ~+27% completion
tokens and leaves a ~3% empty-content residual.
Scripts
| script | what it does |
|---|---|
probe_gen.py <model> <max_tokens> <n> |
leak/finish/empty tally through the LiteLLM gateway |
blast.py |
leak rate across all seven seat aliases |
arms_de.py |
isolates temperature vs presence_penalty |
validate_fix.py |
thinking off vs low vs medium, n=12 |
final_validate.py |
the n=30 multi-prompt + multi-turn confirmation |
test_fix.py |
direct-to-vLLM A/B, bypasses the gateway |
Using these on any future seat
A "7/7 aliases return 200" smoke test cannot catch this. Trivial prompts
never invite reasoning, so they never sample the leaking token. Probe with a
reasoning-inviting prompt at n>=12 and grep raw content for <think>.
Did our abliteration cause it? No — the base did (~83% / ~17%)
think_prior.py <model-path> measures P(<think>) at the first generated
token, with the template rendered enable_thinking=false so the prompt already
contains a closed think pair. That is the exact event behind the leak. Raw
softmax over the full vocab, bf16, CPU-only — no GPU contention and no seat
downtime, which is what makes this cheap enough to run on any future candidate.
| build | abliteration | P(<think>) |
rank |
|---|---|---|---|
coldfusion-bf16 |
none (stock) | 0.1850 | 3 |
coldfusion-abliterated-L35-bf16 |
Robinson L35, mild | 0.2048 | 2 |
coldfusion-h300-mtp-bf16 |
Heretic-300, heavy | 0.2216 | 2 |
The stock base already carries 18.5%. Abliteration adds a real, monotonic, dose-dependent +3.7 points — a nudge on a pre-existing base, not the cause. Cold-Fusion is a reasoning-token-compression finetune; it is a model trained to think, briefly, and it wants to open that block.
Consequence: rolling back does not fix the leak. At 18.5% mass under temp 0.7
/ top_p 0.8 the stock base leaks at nearly the same rate. Only leaving the
Cold-Fusion family escapes it. The chat_template_kwargs fix is the right lever.
A forward-KL budget cannot catch this. Heretic minimizes forward KL(stock||abliterated), which is near-blind to new mass on tokens stock barely used — that is reverse KL's job, and we measured that asymmetry on L35 (reverse 1.43 vs forward 0.70). h300's KL of 0.0136 is not evidence of innocence. For any "did the abliteration break behavior X" question, measure P(token) directly.
Run it:
sudo -u llmuser env OMP_NUM_THREADS=48 CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES="" \
/tank/aimodels/quant-work/.venv/bin/python think_prior.py /tank/aimodels/<build>
⚠ Abliteration and post-quant outputs are written root-owned 0600 and are
unreadable to llmuser; normalize to llmuser:llmuser 0664 first. The failure
surfaces as a misleading FileNotFoundError, not a permission error.
Resolution — Cold-Fusion abandoned, seat rolled back to heresy (2026-08-21)
The operator's call, made before the result was in: "If it's the base, we abandon
h300 AND the base." The measurement said base, so it fired. The gen seat is back
on qwen38-27b-heresy-nvfp4-mixed.
The clincher is the same instrument, pointed at heresy:
| build | P(<think>) at first token |
|---|---|
| Cold-Fusion stock | 0.1850 |
| Cold-Fusion L35 | 0.2048 |
| Cold-Fusion h300 | 0.2216 |
heresy (restored) |
not in the top 20 — <0.002 |
A >100x gap. The two families are categorically different here, which is exactly why no rollback inside Cold-Fusion would have helped.
Verified after the rollback, same probes as before:
final_validate.py— 0/30 leaks, 0 empty, with the existingenable_thinking: falseconfig. h300 scored 8/30 on this same instrument.- KV pool 403,065 tok / 1.54x — heresy's exact documented baseline.
- 7/7 gateway aliases 200; vision intact.
- No LiteLLM config change was needed. The
chat_template_kwargsfix developed above is left unapplied: it worked, but it was a workaround for a base we no longer serve.
The gate this earns: run think_prior.py on a candidate's STOCK weights before
committing GPU time to it. It is a ~10s CPU measurement, and it would have
disqualified Cold-Fusion before the 300-trial Heretic study ever started.