Prime, 2026-09-25: TEI serves embedding + reranking for esh-ml1 and the fleet from now on; fv-ml1 retires both once esh-ml1 is up. - stacks/embed-rerank: vLLM -> TEI 1.9.4 (89- Ada build), same ports 8001/8013, fail-closed truncation (--auto-truncate false; embed --max-batch-tokens 32768). - litellm: qwen3-embedding -> esh-ml1 only (hosted_vllm/, unchanged address); reranker -> huggingface/ provider at :8013 (hosted_vllm/ 422s on TEI's `texts` body). DB alias reranker-a3-bge-v2-m3 patched to the same target. - Verified via the gateway against the retiring fv-ml1 seats: embed cosine median 0.999927 (n=203); rerank top-1/top-3 29/30. - stacks/vllm: vllm-embed and vllm-rerank-a3 removed (containers retired on fv-ml1, GPU 1 freed ~6.1 GB); reward + coder unchanged. - Bake-off record moved to docs/pfi/embed-rerank-tei-vs-vllm-bakeoff.md; CLAUDE.md gains the TEI convention.
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Embed/rerank engine bake-off — TEI vs vLLM on esh-ml1 (2026-09-25)
Prime, 2026-09-25: "run the TEI bake-off." Hugging Face Text Embeddings
Inference 1.9.4 (89-1.9.4, the Ada build) served the same two models as the
then-vLLM embed-rerank stack (vLLM v0.24.0), side by side on the same RTX 2000E
Ada, as a temporary tei-bakeoff stack.
Outcome (Prime, 2026-09-25): "TEI is embed/reranker server for esh-ml1 and the
FLEET in general, in future." The same day TEI replaced vLLM in
stacks/embed-rerank on ports 8001/8013. The
gateway was repointed with esh-ml1 as the sole backend, and fv-ml1's
vllm-embed + vllm-rerank-a3 seats were retired, freeing ~6.1 GB on fv-ml1
GPU 1. The bake-off stack was removed; this file is its record.
Results (2026-09-25 0744–0805 PT)
Parity — TEI matches the existing vLLM vectors
Reference = vLLM on fv-ml1, the engine every existing index was built with. 306 texts (6 fixed incl. CJK/code/6k-char + 300 The Stand paragraphs); retrieval = 2,000-paragraph corpus, 50 instruction-format queries.
| embedding check | result | noise floor / control |
|---|---|---|
| cosine TEI vs vLLM-FV | median 0.999925, min 0.999861 | vLLM-FV vs itself: 0.999916 / 0.999796 |
| overlap@10, TEI index + TEI queries | 0.976 | vLLM-FV rerun 0.986; vLLM-ESH 0.972 |
| overlap@10, TEI queries vs the OLD vLLM index (migration case) | 0.988 | positive control (MRL-256 dims) 0.648 |
| hit@1 own paragraph | 0.80 | vLLM-FV 0.80 |
| different-text negative control | cosine median 0.31 | — |
TEI is deterministic (TEI vs itself: min 0.999995). Switching engines does not require re-embedding existing indexes.
| rerank check (100 queries × 20 docs, 9 same-chapter distractors) | TEI vs vLLM-FV | vLLM-FV vs itself |
|---|---|---|
| source paragraph ranked #1 | 0.95 (same as vLLM) | 0.95 |
| top-1 agreement | 1.00 | 1.00 |
| top-3 set agreement | 1.00 | 1.00 |
| top-5 exact order | 0.98 | 1.00 |
| order among docs scoring > 0.05 | 1.00 (n=37) | 1.00 |
| full 20-doc order | 0.55 | 0.99 |
| max score difference | 0.019 (p99 0.0034) | 0.0016 |
Every decision that matters agrees; the differences are shuffles among near-zero-scoring tail documents. ⚠ A consumer that thresholds on the rerank score could see a borderline document flip (scores move up to ~0.02). An earlier 30-query run with random distractors had one top-1 disagreement (29/30); across both runs, 129/130.
Speed — TEI is NOT faster on this card
On-box, 2 interleaved runs × 3 reps each, medians:
| workload | vLLM | TEI |
|---|---|---|
| embed 1 short query, p50 | ~9.1 ms | ~6.9 ms |
| embed 1 × ~512 tok, p50 | ~23 ms (bimodal 10–25) | ~28 ms |
| embed 1 × ~2k tok, p50 | ~86 ms | ~108 ms |
| bulk embed, passages/s | ~50 | ~37 |
| whole novel (The Stand, 12,814 paragraphs), 64/request, 4 in flight | 31 s | 40 s |
| rerank 20 docs, p50 | ~169 ms | ~180 ms |
| rerank 20 docs, req/s at conc 8 | ~5.7 | ~5.6 |
TEI ran its fused FlashQwen3 path. --max-batch-tokens 32768 did not change
the novel time (39–40 s), so it stays at the default. Through the gateway these
gaps mostly vanish: LiteLLM is the bottleneck there (see
servers/esh-ml1/README.md).
Footprint — TEI is much lighter
| vLLM (both) | TEI (both) | |
|---|---|---|
VRAM (host nvidia-smi, per process) |
3,298 + 1,512 MiB | 1,352 + 1,256 MiB |
| image | 29.9 GB | 8.16 GB |
| warm restart to healthy (n=3) | ~24 s | ~4 s |
| container RAM just after start | 2.5 + 5.1 GiB | 0.7 + 1.7 GiB |
⚠ vLLM's VRAM figure is mostly a setting (--gpu-memory-utilization 0.20
each). A lower setting would shrink it; that has not been tested.
External review — Dvalin (Grok research peer), 2026-09-25
Agree with caveats: adopt TEI for these two seats; footprint is the right reason. His external evidence (not re-verified here): a Runpod 2026-09-14 engine comparison shows vLLM ahead of TEI on Qwen3-Embedding bulk throughput (median ~2.6×, single unreplicated runs, near parity on smaller cards) and TEI ahead on BERT-family models — consistent with our 1.3× on a 50 W card and the rerank near-tie. Open TEI 1.9 issue #857 (tokio panic "No backend receiver" under load, n=1) is a watch item, not a gate. A lower vLLM memory setting would shrink only the embedder (the reranker at 1,512 MiB is already under its cap); 0.12 is the only setting he'd expect to both boot and help — untested. His caveats, and status: fail-closed truncation (done, above); recheck score- threshold consumers (done, nevermore, above); two gateway providers must be written down at cut-over (open).
Gateway compatibility (LiteLLM v1.97, temp aliases, deleted after)
- Embeddings: drop-in. TEI's
/v1/embeddingsworks with the existinghosted_vllm/provider. - Rerank: needs the
huggingface/provider (scores identical to direct TEI).hosted_vllm/fails with 422 (missing field texts); TEI's/rerankbody differs from vLLM's.
Behaviour differences to carry into any cut-over
- Truncation — now fail-closed (
--auto-truncate false). Measured with TEI's default: a ~40k-token input returned 200 with a vector of its first 16,384 tokens, silently, where vLLM returns 400. With truncation off, TEI embed rejects > 32,768 tokens and TEI rerank rejects > 8,192 (both 422, verified). Truncation off requires--max-batch-tokensat or above the model's max input (32,768 for Qwen3-Embedding) or TEI refuses to start; VRAM unchanged. Remaining difference: TEI embed accepts 8,193–32,767 tokens that vLLM (--max-model-len 8192) rejects. It embeds the whole input, which is wider, not lossy. - nevermore thresholds rerank scores (
NEVERMORE_RERANK_THRESHOLD, default 0.3, cluster-member filter indigest.py). Across the 2,000 bake-off scores, 0 flips at 0.3 or 0.5 for TEI vs vLLM — but only 1 score landed within ±0.02 of 0.3 (bge scores sit near 0 or 1), so this cannot exclude rare flips on borderline headlines. Worst case: a same-story headline clusters differently. Low stakes. - TEI caps inputs per request at
--max-client-batch-size(default 32; set to 128 here). - TEI on CUDA runs float16 only (vLLM served Qwen3-Embedding in bf16); parity above says it does not matter here.