# breeze-tts sizing and the fv-ml1 GPU 0 placement question (2026-09-15) Operator asked how big breeze-tts is and whether fv-ml1 GPU 0 has room for it. **Recommendation: do not move it.** Numbers and reasoning below. ## ⚠ Measure it UNDER LOAD and measure it LATE — it does both badly at idle and early | when | breeze VRAM | |---|---| | shortly after warm-up | **9,218 MiB** | | after 53 min uptime | **10,316 MiB** | | at idle on the wrong card | **invisible** — shows nothing | Two traps stacked: 1. ⚠ **It reports nothing when you query the wrong GPU.** `BREEZE_GPU_DEVICES=0` and on irv-ml1 that is the **RTX 3090**, not the A6000. An idle query of GPU 1 shows breeze absent entirely — I read that as "released its memory" before checking the device map. 2. ⚠ **The footprint GROWS with use** — +1.1 GiB over 53 minutes. Consistent with PyTorch's caching allocator not returning memory (already hypothesised in this repo for this host), so probably caching rather than a leak — but it is resident either way and it counts against any neighbour. **n=2 points is a trend, not a characterised curve**; whether it plateaus is unmeasured. Other facts: image `local/breeze-tts:v3` is **26.5 GB** on disk; weights bind-mounted from `/home/lkraven/breeze/weights`; container pid 2048660, CUDA pid 2048873. ## Why NOT to move it to fv-ml1 GPU 0 **1. The margin is thinner than it first looked, and trending the wrong way.** fv-ml1 GPU 0 free : 11,982 MiB (two vLLM seats at util 0.88, + parakeet ~800 MiB) breeze at 9.2 GiB -> 2.8 GB margin <- the number I first quoted breeze at 10.3 GiB -> 1.7 GB margin <- the number after an hour, still climbing GPU 0 is the **live chat serving path**. Putting a growing tenant in shrinking headroom there is the wrong direction. **2. ⭐ The real objection is topology, not VRAM.** `tts-gateway` runs on **irv-ml1** and reaches breeze **on the same box**. Moving breeze alone to Fountain Valley puts an Irvine↔FV hop on **every TTS call**, against a budget tts-dev measured at **478 ms to first sample**. Moving it properly means moving the gateway too — a project, not a placement tweak. **3. It is not constrained where it is.** The 3090 still has **10,099 MiB free**. ## ✅ RESOLVED — operator 2026-09-15: leave it, park the move > "leave it where it is, park moving breeze, bragi, and the tts-gateway to fv1 when we > move the embedder, reranker, and reward models off gpu0" Parked at **`move-the-tts-stack-breeze-tts-bragi-tts-gateway` (park id 75)**. **All three move together, and only one is GPU-resident:** | service | footprint | |---|---| | `breeze-tts` | **~10.3 GiB VRAM**, growing | | `bragi` | **CPU only** — proxy, polls tts-gateway `/health` | | `tts-gateway` | **CPU only** — the `ext-tts` routing gateway | ⭐ Co-location is the whole reason to move them as a set: `tts-gateway` reaches breeze **same-box** today, and moving breeze alone is what puts the cross-site hop on every call. ⚠ **The trigger as stated has the card wrong, and it is worth confirming before executing.** The operator said "off gpu0", but `vllm-embed`, `vllm-rerank-a3` and `vllm-reward` are all pinned to **GPU 1** (util 0.03 + 0.03 + 0.10 ≈ 0.16, ~15.7 GB). GPU 1 is the constrained card at **0.975 committed / 4,336 MiB free**; GPU 0 has 11,982 MiB free and carries the live chat path. So evacuating those three relieves **GPU 1**, not GPU 0 — which changes where the TTS stack would land. ⚠ **Migration gotcha:** containers on irv-ml1 cannot resolve `*.nh3.internal`; `bragi` and `tts-gateway` reach each other by name only through `extra_hosts` pins. Those pins travel with them and need re-pointing at the new host. ## fv-ml1 per-seat residency, measured 2026-09-15 (97,887 MiB per card) | GPU | seats (resident MiB) | resident | free | |---|---|---|---| | **0** | cyberprev 47,124 · gen-small 36,942 · parakeet 1,178 | 85,244 | **11,982** | | **1** | meromero 44,056 · erp 27,748 · reward 9,192 · coder 6,292 · embed 3,472 · rerank 2,114 | 92,874 | **4,336** | | **2** | flash-next 95,344 | 95,344 | 1,767 | | **3** | — (deliberate reserve) | 2 | **97,247** | ## ⚠⚠ `--gpu-memory-utilization` DOES NOT PREDICT RESIDENCY — measure, don't compute Capacity planning off the configured util fractions is wrong **in both directions**: vllm-cyberprev util 0.40 -> expect ~39,155 MiB ACTUAL 47,124 (+8.0 GB OVER) vllm-gen-small util 0.48 -> expect ~46,986 MiB ACTUAL 36,942 (-10.0 GB UNDER) An hour earlier in this session I reasoned about placement from the util fractions and would have been ~8 GB wrong on one card. ⭐ **`util` is a ceiling the engine may not reach and evidently can exceed** (weights, activations and non-KV allocations sit outside the KV budget the fraction governs). Always read `nvidia-smi --query-compute-apps` for the real number. ## Does a shuffle make room for breeze? — worked through - **GPU 0 today: YES, no shuffle.** 11,982 free vs breeze 10,316 → **1.7 GB margin**, against a tenant that grew +1.1 GB in an hour, on the live chat path. Fits; thin. - **GPU 1 today: NO.** 4,336 free. - **Evacuate embed+rerank+reward (14,778 MiB) → GPU 1 has 19,114 free**, breeze fits with ~8.8 GB headroom. **But there is nowhere to put those three except GPU 3** — 14,778 does not fit GPU 0's 11,982, and GPU 2 has 1,767. - **Partial shuffle fails:** embed+rerank (5,586) to GPU 0 leaves GPU 1 at 9,922 free — **~400 MB short** of breeze, and breeze is growing. ⭐ **Conclusion: every arrangement that makes real room on GPU 1 spends the GPU 3 reserve anyway.** So if breeze ever goes to FV, put it **straight on GPU 3** rather than evacuating three working seats to achieve the same cost plus a migration. ## If consolidation onto FV is the goal anyway **GPU 3** fits it comfortably (97,247 MiB free) and has none of the margin problem — but it **spends the reserve**, and the reserve exists because vLLM sizes KV against TOTAL VRAM and `flash-next` needs 93 of 96 GiB. Breeze at ~10 GiB leaves ~87 GiB, which no longer takes a full-card seat. That is the trade; it is the operator's call, and the gateway should move with it either way.