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docs(gemma4-charrp): RETRACT the contradiction-deficit claim — the item was ill-posed
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docs(gemma4-charrp): the A16 control needs a chat-template override, not just a path swap
Pre-flighting the staged A16 build before handing it to brokkr-smithy-dev's
battery found a second axis hiding inside what was supposed to be a
single-variable control.
The A16 build ships a STALE chat template. Verified by hash against the upstream
weights on the same disk: google/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it is 390 lines, the RedHatAI
A4 build's is 389 and byte-identical to upstream once trailing newlines are
normalised, and the prithivMLmods A16 build's is 266 and is not. The delta is
not cosmetic — upstream and A4 open the thinking path with
`{%- set enable_thinking = enable_thinking | default(false) -%}` and branch off
it, while the A16 template has no such set and guards with
`enable_thinking is defined and enable_thinking` instead. tokenizer_config.json
corroborates: A4's response_schema carries a `thinking` property, A16's has only
role and content. That build was quantized from an older revision of the
checkpoint.
Served with its own template, the A16 arm would render a different prompt for
identical messages, and a contradiction-detection delta could be attributed to
activation precision when it was the template. That is the same failure class as
the misnamed-A16 repos — a field nobody validated, believed because the name
looked right — one layer further down, and it would have produced a result that
looked like a finding.
Overriding is safe because the tokenizers agree: vocab identical at 262,144
entries, added_tokens identical, so the same template over the same vocab
renders the same token ids. Everything else pre-flights clean — both artifacts
complete with no missing shards, generation_config.json byte-identical.
Seat NOT flipped; displacing production for the bench window is the operator's
call and is still open.
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f509668e45 |
docs(gemma4-charrp): record the A16 activation-axis control and how to run it
brokkr-smithy-dev's first battery on the new seat scored 12% on contradiction detection with CoT off, against gen's 81%, while state tracking, deterministic constraint following, long-context state and the confabulation control all sat at 100%. That is not general degradation — it is the shape 4-bit input activations produce on the most reasoning-dense task, which is exactly the confound flagged when the W4A4 quant was chosen. They have recorded the finding as CONFOUNDED rather than reporting it as a property of Gemma, and asked for an A16 build to separate the two. No quant run was needed: a genuine A16 build of the same checkpoint already exists on the Hub and is now at /tank/aimodels/gemma4-26b-a4b-it-nvfp4a16 (prithivMLmods, compressed-tensors, nvfp4-pack-quantized, input_activations null, 17 GB). Same weights, same loader as the live seat, one axis moved. ⚠ Two other repos would have answered the question wrongly and the note in the env template says so: bg-digitalservices and ManniX-ITA both publish "Gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-NVFP4A16" whose config declares input_activations num_bits 4 — W4A4 under an A16 name, via modelopt, both 16.46 GB against the real one's 17.93. Using either and seeing T2 stay at 12% would have wrongly convicted the model. Running it is a one-line GEMMA4_MODEL swap plus a recreate, because there is no room for a concurrent seat: GPU0 has 3.5 GiB free with gen and the A4 seat on it, and GPU1's 19.4 GiB against ~18 GiB of weights is the same sub-GiB headroom that crash-looped the predecessor this morning. Port and both aliases are unchanged either way, so no consumer config moves. |
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27155c0f3b |
feat(char-rp): swap the seat to the Gemma-4 26B-A4B MoE, NVFP4, same port
Straight-across replacement of the dense G4-MeroMero-v2-31B-NVFP4A16 seat with google/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it on ana-ml2 GPU0. Port, served-model-names and every gateway route are unchanged, so no consumer sees a difference in addressing: `char-rp` -> hosted_vllm/char-rp and `char-rp-reasoning` -> hosted_vllm/char-rp-thinking, both still :8016. The seat's requirements now include chain-of-thought, which makes throughput more critical rather than less — the user waits through the whole reasoning block before the first visible token, and the MoE measures ~114 tok/s @32K against the dense 31B's ~40.7. Both artifacts are on disk and they are NOT interchangeable. The BF16 weights (/tank/aimodels/gemma4-26b-a4b-it-bf16, 49 GB) are the QLoRA tuning base, since QLoRA does its own quantization. They CANNOT be served here: 48.10 GiB of weights against ~49 GiB of free GPU0 leaves nothing for KV cache, and the engine would die at allocation exactly the way the predecessor did this afternoon. The serving copy is RedHatAI/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-NVFP4 (16 GB), chosen over the other -it quants because it is compressed-tensors (nvfp4-pack-quantized) — the same loader path the outgoing seat used — from the llm-compressor team at 357k downloads. The nvidia/ repo is the base rather than -it, and the thinking channel lives in the instruction-tuned weights. Smaller weights at the same 0.47 memory budget buy a much larger KV pool: 27.37 GiB and 1,724,110 tokens, against the predecessor's 371,023 at the same budget. That is 6.5 full-length 262K sequences concurrent rather than 1.4. The gemma4 tool-call parser, reasoning parser and the enable_thinking:false default all carry over unchanged — they are architecture-level, not checkpoint-level. The --chat-template override does NOT carry over: MeroMero pointed at a jinja hand-patched against that checkpoint, and this model ships its own. Verified that dropping it did not reintroduce the failure that flag existed to prevent — non-thinking prose lands in content with reasoning_content empty, and the thinking alias populates reasoning_content with content carrying the answer. ⚠ Scheme differs from the incumbent and the bench should say so: this quant declares 4-bit input activations (W4A4) where the outgoing seat was NVFP4A16. Faster, and not like-for-like on the activation axis. meromero-charrp is retained stopped in `created` state and relabelled to AI - Dormant, per the house rollback pattern. Both stacks want :8016, so rolling back means stopping the gemma4 seat first. |