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@@ -131,40 +131,52 @@ There is also a **modelopt-format-specific** version of this: vLLM 0.24 does not
 modelopt `exclude_modules` to the spec-decode *draft* model, which no checkpoint config can fix
 (needs a `sitecustomize` runtime patch). Using compressed-tensors avoids it entirely — §3.4.
 
-### 3.8 ⭐⭐ A bad W4A4 quant degenerates STOCHASTICALLY — and masquerades as everything else
+### 3.8 ⭐⭐ Multi-turn degeneration from TWO real compounding causes — how they masked each other
 
-The single most expensive misdiagnosis this project has had. A **defective NVFP4
-W4A4 quant** (`sakamakismile/Qwen3.8-27B-AEON-ULTIMATE-UNCENSORED-NVFP4`, full
-W4A4 incl. attention) went degenerate **~15-20% of generations** in real
-multi-turn use — collapse, cross-turn content bleed, early-ending — forcing a
-regenerate. It was **purged 2026-08-17** as no-good.
+The most expensive diagnosis this project has had, because there were **two real
+causes at once** and each partial fix moved the needle enough to look like *the*
+answer. Recorded precisely because the first write-up of this section
+over-attributed it to the quant alone; that was wrong.
 
-The reason it cost days: **every other layer AMPLIFIED it, so each looked like the
-cause in turn.** MTP made it worse (so MTP-off "fixed" a synthetic probe); prefix
-caching made it worse (so APC-off "fixed" another probe); the vLLM #51113 mamba
-fix made it "significantly better." Each partial-improvement produced a plausible
-false root-cause that passed a clean run and then failed in real use. The actual
-cause was the **weights**: swapping to the FP8-attention mixed build
-(`qwen38-27b-uncensored-nvfp4-mixed`, same base model, same MTP, same nightly, MTP
-ON) is **coherent**. W4A4 *attention* was the defect; FP8 attention is not.
+**Cause 1 (real, upstream): the vLLM `qwen3_5_mtp` × Gated-DeltaNet bug.**
+Confirmed by two cross-frontier peers and the tracker (vllm#47087 symptom-twin,
+#43559 fix lineage, #51113 fix): the GDN recurrent state cannot roll back on a
+partial draft-accept, so speculative decoding corrupts it, worse with context.
+Architectural — vLLM/SGLang/llama.cpp mainline all shared it. **Genuinely fixed
+enough** by moving to vLLM **nightly** (`v0.27.2rc1.dev150+`, carries #51113):
+the operator reported it "significantly better" — this was a real bug, not just
+an amplifier.
 
-**Lessons, dearly bought:**
-1. **Stochastic degeneration (15-20%) is nearly invisible to a small synthetic
-   probe.** A single 7-turn run passes ~4 times in 5. n=1 "clean" proves nothing;
-   this class of bug needs many runs or the operator's real high-volume use. Do
-   NOT declare a fix from one passing probe — it validated three non-fixes here.
-2. **Isolate the WEIGHTS early.** When a quant degenerates, swap to a *different
-   quant of the same base* before chasing serving flags (MTP, prefix-caching,
-   engine version). Had the AEON→mixed weight swap come first, the serving-flag
-   rabbit holes (MTP, APC, SGLang, nightly) would have been unnecessary.
-3. **W4A4 on attention is high-risk for coherence, independent of the acceptance
-   gate.** AEON passed every static gate — abliteration 4/4, surface 6/6, a 36k
-   needle, 52% MTP acceptance — and was still stochastically broken in
-   conversation. Prefer FP8 attention (the mixed recipe, §2) over full W4A4; if
-   W4A4 attention is used, gate on *many* real multi-turn generations.
+**Cause 2 (real, quant): full W4A4 is mildly subpar, per the known gradient.**
+`sakamakismile/Qwen3.8-27B-AEON-ULTIMATE-UNCENSORED-NVFP4` is **full** W4A4 — 4-bit
+*activations* on attention too, the bottom of the activation-precision ordering
+already in §1: **W4A4 (A4) < W4+FP8 (A8) < W4+bf16 (A16)**. Not "defective," just
+lowest-fidelity; on top of Cause 1 it degenerated ~15-20% of real multi-turn
+generations. The FP8-attention **mixed** build (`qwen38-27b-uncensored-nvfp4-mixed`,
+same base, same MTP, same nightly) sits a rung up that gradient and is coherent.
+AEON was purged 2026-08-17 (operator ruled it no-good; re-pullable from HF).
 
-Current primary gen: the mixed FP8-attention build on vLLM nightly with MTP,
-until the DavidAU Qwen3.8 lands.
+**Why it cost days — and the process lessons that stand:**
+1. **Two real causes compound and mask each other.** Each mitigation (MTP-off,
+   APC-off, the nightly #51113 fix) partially helped, so each looked like the fix
+   and then failed in real use. When a mitigation "helps but doesn't fix," suspect
+   a *second* cause rather than a wrong one.
+2. **Stochastic degeneration (~15-20%) is nearly invisible to a small synthetic
+   probe** — a 7-turn run passes ~4 in 5. n=1 "clean" proves nothing; this class
+   needs many runs or the operator's real high-volume use. Three non-fixes were
+   "validated" by a single clean probe here.
+3. **Isolate the WEIGHTS in parallel with the serving flags, not after.** Swapping
+   to a different quant of the same base (AEON→mixed) is what finally separated
+   Cause 2 from Cause 1; doing it earlier would have shortened the hunt. But note
+   it would NOT have found Cause 1 — the vLLM bug was real and needed the nightly.
+4. **Prefer FP8 attention (the §2 mixed recipe) over full W4A4** for a coherence-
+   sensitive seat. AEON passed every static gate (abliteration 4/4, surface 6/6, a
+   36k needle, 52% acceptance) and was still the lower-fidelity of the two.
+
+Current primary gen: the mixed FP8-attention build on pinned vLLM nightly with
+MTP, until the DavidAU Qwen3.8 lands. A W4+bf16 (W4A16) build would be higher
+fidelity still (§1) at a prefill cost — an option if the mixed build ever proves
+marginal.
 
 ### 3.7 ⭐ A LOADED MTP head can still corrupt output — Qwen3.8 multi-turn